Notice that I did not say separate, but distinct. Some oneness folks think that the doctrine of the Trinity is that there are three separate beings who are God. As John Calvin comments, (I am not a Calvinist) Unbelievers, as far as lies in their power, bind up the hands of God by their obstinacy; not that God is overcome, as if he were an inferior, but because they do not permit him to display his power. Only difference is he used obstinacy, Christ used unbelief, as I shared earlier, obstinacy is a symptom of unbelief. I wouldnt suggest that one add up the number of doctrinal errors to determine whether someone is a false teacher. If you study the scriptures long enough concerning the identity of Father/Son/Spirit, it is CLEAR that it is all ONE God, ONE Spirit, ONE Lord. After having said that, I believe youre probably right. I appreciate the tone of our conversation very much. The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight. When Paul chastised the foolish churches in Galatia, he did so because they had turned to another gospel. He's built a church empire with his "feel good" preaching, attractive worship, and excellent packaging. Thats undeniably false. You and I arent Job, or Moses, or Jesus. The only thing I remember I was taught about the Trinity , is that as a human being we cant understand it. The Bible is full of examples to the contrary. When Furtick claims that Jesus was UNABLE to do ANY miracles because the power of God was trapped in the unbelief of humans, he contradicts Gods Word. I know it can be difficult to separate what weve been taught by people we love from what we see in the Bible, but you can do it. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. Peter called Pauls writings Scripture and Paul called out others in exactly this fashion. This is also why Jesus said; According to your faith be it unto you. If someone makes a good point, good but we dont use human authority to point out Gods authority in Scripture. This week, reports by NBC Charlotte have focused on the financial success of the church's charismatic pastor that has accompanied that growth. I also have no doubt I could be friends with Furtick, given the opportunity. There are too many to list like this, showing that there was a two fold ministry, of both his revealed power and his response to faith. I wish you well, and hope that you will reach out if I can help you in any way. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. So no, modalism is not a false doctrine. As no, it is not a logical and biblical explanation that He chooses to act under certain circumstances, and to not act in others, as God is not the author of confusion 1 Corinthians 14:33, and that would be the height of it, as even in your question: How did God respond? Neither do I. How about occasionally giving the gospel . Second, Im supremely confident that you will agree with these statements correct me if Im wrong: If you agree with those things, then the only thing left for you and me to figure out is whether Steven Furticks teaching actually DOES contradict Scripture right? Its not unreasonable. Its that we wield the same kind of power that God has. And he went round about the villages, teaching. So, again, it can be either word used, as here, scripture does interpret scripture with similar scripture. The Word of Faith movement, for example, tends to place the blame on weak faith whenever a person is not healed of a disease. He did not pursue what was gain to him and he left the benefits of his heritage and education behind in order to know the Lord and the power of His resurrection, to be made conformable to His death. Having said that ,he may be the only source of the gospel to many. God, in, I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. One strategy is to ask questions in a different context. Luke 3:21-23 KJV That statement is based solely on what we see in Scripture, with which anybody can and everybody should become familiar. This makes no sense, of course but it does help Furtick set up more on the little gods doctrine. But that you may know that the Son of man has power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up your bed, and go unto your house. Matthew 9:5,6. In our natural state, we want nothing to do with God. Gamaliel didnt know whether this new sect of Jesus-followers was from God or not. I wonder whether hed really like me after finding out that Ive written about him. God, in, Ah, Sovereign Lord Nothing is too hard for you. You have raising from the dead power on the inside of you, and you have to see it. The standard in the New Testament is clear: we ARE to throw the baby out with the bath water. Instead, we see in Scripture that God is sovereign, that there are none like Him, that there are none above Him, and so on. Ive removed the link you provided, in case any would be tempted to go and listen to him. Thanks for your comment. Unbelief in Nazareth somehow kept Christ from doing all that He could. If eternal life matters (and it does), then teaching and preaching the truth about God matters. Hope you are doing well, as it has been awhile since corresponding and you writing; When Furtick claims that Jesus was UNABLE to do ANY miracles because the power of God was trapped in the unbelief of humans, But since then, I just heard Andrew Wommack teach about Mark 6:5,6 saying we can limit God. If Steven Furtick IS a false teacher, it would be irresponsible to ignore the evidence. Ps Gabriel Hughes writes, All of Revelation? He takes the first step. Finally, suggesting that he may be engaging in circumincessionism doesnt necessarily make things better, or more orthodox. God is love, but we are not. Needs a dose of 1 Peter 5:5, as we all must! Both tritheism and modalism are false simply because they contradict Scripture. Pastor Robert Madu. The misconception I encounter is that His fulfillment of the law means it no longer applies. Ive outlined a few of the reasons we know that modalism is false in my previous comment to you. My identity isnt a secret. Its not. Thank you for teaching me to bunt and giving me a tractor-trailer to learn punk rock. True he draws us to himself (hearing the Gospel, as there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved), but it takes two steps for salvation as it is (by grace), but it also takes the second part (through faith) Ephesians 2:8. Lets see a sit down between you and Pastor Furtick. For example, in that same passage, a narcigete would put themselves in Jesus place. But I dont want to follow a false teacher. Birth Name: Steven Furtick Occupation: Religious Leader Born In: Moncks Corner Birthdate: February 19, 1980 Age: 42 years old (as of 2023) Ethnicity: Unknown Nationality: American Sexuality: N/A Steven Furtick was born on the 19th of February, 1980. Dont trust yourself. God the Father, son and spirit is one and same person in three forms to carry out different functions for man. A lot of people disagree with me, but theres TONS of good music out there. You will RECEIVE salvation (passive voice). You wrote, It was those who had faith that received from God that day! First, it must be said that the text does not give us that information. What ethnicity is Steven Furtick? Every time I hear some of steven furtick motivational speeches my heart each time is just tore up about it thank u for digging and honestly confirming what Ive always felt each time he opens his mouth normally missing the mark isnt some huge extravagant bald faced lie, its subtle hence surely you wont die but we just like Eve are looking through our humanistic evil eyes (Ayin) its never been a physical death, always a spiritual death, resulting in our separation from God! Elevation Church as well as Pastor Furtick had been updating congregants and supporters throughout the week, and the Christian minister disclosed Wednesday afternoon that family and close friends had been gathered at the elder Furtick's bedside and would appreciate continued prayers. Jesus cannot override someones unbelief. The gospel , death, burial and resurrection of our Lord. The scripture are flush with such scripture, and I shared many in my last response, as truly all things (healing, deliverance, and salvation, which is the greatest miracle) are possible, but one has to believe! First: what does this passage actually SAY? Steven Furtick Height and Weight Furtick stands at a height of 5 feet 9 inches (Approx. Its based on the dominion idea that Adam inadvertently gave dominion to Satan in the Garden of Eden, and that God had to create a scheme to trick Satan and get dominion back. Because Steven Furtick isnt a reliable and responsible teacher, recommending their music is a lot like endorsing a false teacher. I end, if I did not reach my max, with Thessalonians 4: 6-9. They interact with one another because they are distinct from one another, as you and I are. Hello, I am in my mid thirties and trying to rebuild my faith. Will you do yours? Jesus, in no sense, changed forms at the ascension. They were all involved in the creation, for example. Herein, you will see beautiful Pictures Of Pastor Steven Furtick And His Family. No. I never assume someone is saved,born again because they like to debate Gods Word. Thanks for visiting GodWords! Its a combination of narcissism and eisegesis. Myles Munroe is a good example, and you can see that. Find out whether the people you listen to are teaching what we find in the New Testament, or not. You have to get the understanding from God. Thats both unbiblical and ridiculous. When Paul wrote that he was glad that the gospel was being preached, he pointed to the fact that the gospel was being preached for personal gain. He has developed it into a global ministry by using online streaming, television and music. Steven was born in Moncks Corner, South Carolina on February 19, 1980. They dont use sober judgment. Notice he did heal some by laying his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. Simply put, not obstaining from the appearance of evil and not separating from the world. The term family is singular. Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? Can you please provide the date of the sermon you reference (or better yet, a link as most Furtick sermons are available online). Dont you think Mary and Martha were confused about why Jesus just hung out while Lazarus died? Steven Furtick is part o The American pastor was born by Faith Furtick, who is her mother and her father known as Larry Stevens Furtick. First, that doesnt match what we read in Scripture. When Christians talk about Jesus, they acknowledge that He is God. On the question of Revelation 22:18-19 I would ask you to consider a few questions. Removing the copyright information violates that agreement and makes you guilty of, essentially, piracy: using their intellectual property for your own benefit without compensation. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. We Are We Label. =). Feel free to continue disagreeing, if you dont see what I see. Steven Furtick's age: 41 years as of 2021; Parents: Faith Liles Furtick and Larry Stevens Furtick (1952-2013) Nationality: American; Steven Furtick's ethnicity: White; Schools attended: Berkeley High School, North Greenville University, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; Religion: Christian; Steven Furtick's YouTube: Official Steven Furtick Your use of this passage suggests that we dont know whether Furtick is teaching the gospel or not whether its from God or not. But also, I think many teachers, Pastors, etc. Now, baptizing people is good. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. 13th April 2020. Im confident that were all better for it. Although each member of the Trinity serves different functions, they each possess equal power and authority. One would assume that this kind of education might help him avoid really dumb theological ideas, but that assumption is flawed. God did not arbitrarily decide He now longer cared about cleanliness. What gives you the right to say who is or is not of God? Steven Furtick either teaches false things, or he does not. It might be helpful for you to read What is a False Teacher. Similarly, today a Doctor would tell a 21st century man to lay off coffee, an over used source of stomach (acid) trouble. While specific songs might be perfectly fine in their lyrics, are they pointing people back to Elevation church and Steven Furticks teaching? Martha did not believe that Jesus would raise her brother Lazarus from the dead (John 11:2324, 39), but our Savior resurrected him anyway (vv. Even Jesus cannot override your unbelief. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. If you dont know that, you simply havent read the New Testament very much. There can be just one family. Let me know if you need a hand getting started. Rather than having a biblical perspective, they teach what is essentially magic. The Son obeyed the Father (John 14:31). When Steven Furtick started Elevation Church in early 2006, he had just 14 members.Fast-forward 7 years, the average attendance is reported as 11,719 people, as the success of Elevation Church has exceeded all expectations.The popularity of the church, along with the associated merchandising and book deals, has allowed Furtick to build the mansion of his dreams in Weddington, North Carolina. Further, he belongs to the Caucasian ethnicity. Same thing. Atheists will say that God does not exist. In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt.. without the shedding of blood, there is no remission ( forgiveness, Hebrews 9:22). Nationality: American: Profession: Author, Evangelist: Net Worth: $60 Million: Wife/Spouse(Name): Holly Furtick: Children/Kids: Blonde: Steven Furtick Height: Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. The little gods doctrine is, quite simply, heresy. This is an arm-in-arm kind of association, where theyre working toward the same goals in the same ways. 2 Timothy 1:7 Youve spent many words pointing out that God can enable us to do things using His power. It might be that the only real problem is that hes watching while young and impressionable children are around and that he just hasnt thought about that. Hes also a dangerous false teacher, whether he knows it or not. I say these things as a brother, and I mean them as a brother. Thanks. People who are unwilling are often, in my experience, not actually interested in following Jesus closely. Not just theological stuff, but ALL true things. And from what you have quoted, has definitely made some statements that go beyond Scripture. Healing belongs to us in Christ Jesus, and yet its up to us to receive it, take it, with your faith. Nationality: American: Fluently Speaks: English: Ethnicity: White: Profession(s) Teacher, Author, Entrepreneur: Award(s) Under Research: Family Details . Here are a few: There are TONS of verses to choose from. For example, in that same passage of Scripture, one might read into the passage the idea that Jesus may have been angry at His old neighbors and at His family. >> Jesus Himself said that He (as the Son) spoke nothing on His own. As another scripture that captures this faith concept is Jesus saying; According to your faith be it unto you. Matthew 9:29. Let me know what you think. Thank you for your gracious words and help. Church is changing too quickly because of the influence of these false teachers. I believe it means all of Scripture and think these false teachings are adding to Scripture. Its at the very beginning of the video. God the Father, son and spirit is one and same person in three forms to carry out different functions for man. ", Upon her father-in-law's passing, Pastor Furtick's wife, Holly Furtick, tweeted another passage: "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his faithful servants. Yes, its possible to present the true, biblical gospel while being wrong about a lot of things. Ive had to NOT put some of my favorite songs on the website because I found that they were made by worship ministers at Joel Osteens church, or wherever. Christine Caine. 10. Pastor Furtick, 33, founded the Matthews, N.C., Elevation Church in 2006, and the Southern Baptist megachurch averages about 15,000 weekly attendees across seven locations in North Carolina. I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God would be less than pleased about your cooperation with Him. In 1 Timothy 5, Paul said to rebuke false teachers publicly, so that the rest may stand in fear. He specifically called out false teachers by name, too: Demas, Phygelus, Hermongenes, Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus. Furtick is the founder of Elevation Church, a mega-church with 20 locations in four southern states and Canada. Examples include, a choir, a team, an audience, a congregation, a couple, etc. Paul gave us the way to avoid error in Philippians 3. I appreciate your input: too many simply condemn people for being unbiblical, or heretical, without actually pointing to what they teach. We cant create worlds out of nothing. 1.75m) tall and weighs 72kgs (158lbs). Buddhists will talk about becoming one with everything by losing your self-identity. The only one who has the right to say if this man is a true man of God is God himself and if he wasnt called by God he will fall. Who knows? Heres the point: the text does not say that Jesus ability to work miracles was in connection with, or in proportion to, or directly dependent on their state of mind. They will enter Jerusalem singing, crowned with everlasting joy. Also who died and left you in charge of judging anyone? Dont even listen to yourself! I work to be brief, but sometimes serving the people who ask legit questions takes extra space. Im not sure I trust myself to draw that line about people Ive never met. Dr. R.C. Every word that came out of His mouth was the Father speaking. Ernest Angley made the same kind of claim: By begging God in fear, doubt, despair, rather than asking in faith, He is limited. As with all Word of Faith teachers, this demotes God to a subordinate position and elevates man to a superior position. Thanks for your work. But not only did God NOT break the Law, the Law wasn't even abolished. The passage I referenced starts with (v3) In these lay a multitude of invalidsblind, lame, and paralyzed. There are a MULTITUDE there and Jesus heals one man (later in the passage it refers to him leaving due to the crowd.) Too few Christians take such things seriously. This is modalism, the same error that Furtick makes. The Bible isnt about you. The Christian Post was unable to confirm his age Wednesday evening, but the elder Furtick was apparently in his early 60s. If you think I shouldnt be writing about false teachers, what do you think I should do instead? Remember let us make man in our image? God needed someone to show the world what He looks like, or else He would have just been a concept. Im sorry youre sick of this. This sets the stage (so to speak) for what is about to happen, in effect because these local folks coped an attitude saying ; who does this local guy think he is? Their low self-esteem is why Jesus COULD NOT release the power of God, no matter how badly He wanted to. . Deuteronomy 6:4 Isaiah 61:1 Matthew 28:19 Mark 1:9-11 Luke 1:35 John 5:21-23; 14:10, 16 Romans 8:9-11 1 Corinthians 8:6 2 Corinthians 13:14 Hebrews 1:8-10 James 2:19. It doesnt say more than that. His claim was that Jesus COULD NOT heal those people because of His unbelief that He had the power, and wanted to use it, but COULD NOT. If you think faith has nothing to do with folks getting healed, the woman healed from an issue of blood shows just how by ones faith, power is drawn from God. He did not make us multiple personality beings, but made us in HIS image. If not, do something about it. Whats the conclusion? If you knew that he was teaching falsely, I dont believe you would repeat his errors, because you know that what we believe about God really matters. Husband- Steven Furtick. And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 2 Corinthians 12:7. (Furtick's parents named him Larry Stevens Furtick Jr.) 2. The church has now grown to a weekly attendance over 27,000 (as of 2019). Thanks for catching my mistake, Stegman! I am sick on my stomach and disgusted by your interpretation or misinterpretation of Gods chosen disciple. Will God honor His word regardless of who presents it ? I have no idea whether Furtick does what he does for personal gain, and you dont either. Wommack, as you point out, teaches that we can limit God. Tony, In your last response to Thomas you said: Iron does indeed sharpen iron and some friction is a necessary part of that process. I only disagree inasmuch as friction is essential. Jesus was not judging them, they were judging themselves, self incriminating (thus not getting anything, James 1:4) for as, per John 3:18. The Father was still in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit was still doing His thing. Ive included a funny video below that you might like. We dont hold the magic key that opens the door for Him to work. Jesus obediently passed on to us the things that the Father told Him to say. Furticks teaching is chock full of narcigesis. Jude gives us the definition of apostasy with examples, so we have the necessary information to discern between the example of Pauls ministry and those examples presented by Jude. You make several good points in this response but one that Id like to expand on: b) ignorant of how God has blessed his church. Again, why this foundation of being, rooted and grounded in love? Yes, I have the final word on what gets published, but that only applies when people are being unduly combative or promoting things I cant promote. God is not limited in what He can do. Id love for him to prove me wrong, to explain what he meant, and express clearly that his views match what we see in the Bible. Is it because Steven Furtick tickles YOUR itching ears? It might or might not limit what He WILL do, but lets not pretend that God cannot do a thing because you or I lack the faith that He can do it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Its the established position of Scripture and the witness of millions of faithful Christians throughout history: God CAN heal, but He might not and we dont have the power to override His decisions. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright GodWords 2023 - All Rights Reserved. If there are disputable matters, there are indisputable matters. In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt. Yet that is not true, for the word is clear; John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does notbelieve,I do not judge him; forI did not come to judge the world but to save the world. Theres nothing in Scripture that tells us that we can prevent God from doing anything He wants to do. Judge not yet you be judged. Ive just returned from a vacation. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God would have been an abstract theory. Nickname: Stevens Furtick Gender: Male Date of birth: 19th February 1980 Birth sign: Pisces Place of birth: Moncks Corner, South Carolina, U.S. Age: 41 years old (as of 2021) Nationality: American Ethnicity: White Eye colour: Black Hair colour: Black Weight: 72 kg Height: 5 feet 9 inches Sexual orientation: Straight Religion: Christianity The scroll in question is a scroll of prophecy. That excludes a number of books in the Bible, since not all are prophetic. Holly Furtick, Follower of Jesus, is an American author who has written several books for children like Charlotte's Web, Ramona the Pest etc. Now, one could take that too far. Id love to sit down with Steven Furtick. From my perspective, the only possible way that this would NOT be deceptive and manipulative is if the volunteers stayed in their seats until Furtick (or some other leader) asked the volunteers to get up and take their positions to help those who sincerely wanted to be baptized. Some are saved through Steven Furticks ministry but not solely because of what he teaches. Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. He fulfilled the Law. Then, when He ascended into Heaven, stopped being a man and became the Holy Spirit. He has no inside. The Holy Spirit is spirit. We dont agree that healing belongs to us in Christ Jesus, because the Word of God does not say that. The false teaching is the one that contradicts Gods own words when HE said that He is the only God, and when as the Son, He said that He (the Son/Word) and the Father are ONE (heis : one in ESSENCE) I dont know enough about Furtick to know whether he is preaching/teaching the heresy re what you speak creates your reality (a synergistic new age teaching brought into the church by quite a few false teachers of the NAR crowd who are spreading that teaching and building churches all over the US and probably around the world the Declaration statement may indicate this is in his mind if not his teaching but we can only know what he speaks out of his mouth directly) but Modalism is not false. Why imperfect? If you will, please answer VERY briefly these are the only options I can think of, so pick one: Please just pick one, or propose your own as briefly as you can. >> God only has One intelligence, and that intelligence is HIMSELF. Dont make this about you or me. Lets all open our Bibles and compare what we believe with what God has said, and adjust our beliefs accordingly. Heres what Steven Furtick has to say about the nature of God: God is energy. Is it okay to sing the songs, but not go to the concert? While the statement of faith on Elevations website is entirely orthodox, what gets taught from the pulpit is not. First off it also said in the Bible that no one has the right to judge anyone but God this is the problem with the world today no compassion at all Steven furtick is a great preacher and has lead a lot of people to the lord another thing that the Bible said is jealousy is a sin and a lot of people get jealous and start speaking bad things about other people you know Im so sick of this if you are truly a man or women of God and a true Christian then we dont speak bad on others Jesus died on the cross for us so we can be saved this is not how Jesus is nor will he ever be!!!!!! Right, John 5 speaks to Jesus ministry, doing his Father work verse 17, again in Acts 10:38, going about healing all who were oppressed of the devil . He noted that a prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Verse 58 says this: And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. The most proper method is known as exegesis, or reading out of Scripture. One of the things cited for Elevation Churchs growth is the atmosphere surrounding baptisms. While he was still in his teens, he read a book that inspired him to become a minister. What youve written is typical oneness doctrine. Tony, I appreciate the thoroughness of your response. The information on this page will make such abundantly clear. Can He be contained in anything? Steven Furtick is a well-known author of religious books such as Sun Stand Steel, Crash Chatter Box, and Crash. Theres some really helpful information in there. Is Steven Furtick TRYING to pervert the gospel, or has he simply not yet been led into all truth? Thats the reason that so many of the warnings in the New Testament say to not be deceived: to avoid that, we must know the gospel. This is where you read a section of the Bible and you add to it. God cannot sin. Every life is a miracle and every child a blessing, true. Word of Faith teachers twist the Scriptures to say something that God has never said. How do you explain the trinity? Along the way, you might ask something like this: What do you say to people who believe that God is only one person, who just shows up in different forms at different times?.