They could mesmerise a victim with a stare8. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. Privacy Policy. Maggie maintains a close relationship with Riley, who is her favorite soldier; she appears to think of him as a son. Buffyverse Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Apparently Adam wasoriginally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted outof her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. (Unless someone tells them to, but thatwould just be silly and pointless. Lindsay Ann Crouse (born May 12, 1948) is an American actress. In recent years, Crouse has concentrated on the theater. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >> > Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant they> > had to scramble. Actually, it could be even simpler than that - I reload and cast my ownbullets for certain calibers because it's a whole lot cheaper than factoryammo. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. One their schemes involved organizing a charity event with Anne Steele, operator of the East Hills Teen Center, to improved Wolfram & Hart's image and secretly steal the donations. -- Let the Darwin fishes swim!------------------------------------http://www.darwin-fish.com/fish.html------------------------------------, > In article <3D075A59@rcn.com>, Carmikl > wrote:> > > > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. Marc Blucas: The actor's first big role was in Buffy, Marc Blucas: Marc Blucas played Riley Finn. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. You don't AngelLindsey's last words, Lindsey and Angel allied once more in an effort to stop the Circle. Since Buffy is meant to be the central character surely thedrama should focus on a her rather than Riley. Maybe my brain is just not functioning today, but who is this Ash person? The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. Fans struggled to connect with Riley when he was first introduced to the show, as he was seen as just another of Buffy's romances. Shesaid the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out oftheir hats at the last minute. It wasTara who got Willow down that path of heavy magic. Lindsay Crouse ( @lindsaycrouse) is a writer and producer in Opinion. Or just making sure. The Initiative was eventually destroyed and Riley was demoted, which did nothing for his reckless state of mind. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a taser by a then unknown assailant? Andaside from that, I dunno. There are just as many other werewolf stories out there that portray them as being normal humans when not in wolf form who can be killed just like any other person can be. Holland, surprised by Lindsey's willingness to stand up as his person, welcomed Lindsey back, giving him a raise and his own office. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. She's probably a mix of those two. If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. A graduate of Harvard University, where she competed in both cross country and track and field, Lindsay is a senior staff editor and senior OpDocs producer at The New York Times. Her maternal grandparents were Pauline (Ives) and author and educator John Erskine. The character is portrayed by Lindsay Crouse. [5], Buffy writer David Fury said in an interview, "I don't think Joss had envisioned Maggie Walsh as being entirely villainous. It has something to offer everyone at all levels Buddhism is dynamic and has captured the interests of Americans. [citationneeded], Failing to do so, Darla was diagnosed with syphilis, the disease that she had before becoming a vampire. Riley later. [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. "It was obviously a great thing to be a part of. He might have requirements(other than material) that aren't easily met with store bought bullets. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. Tara's death didn't even phase me. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. One of the biggest last minute changes that affected Buffy was Seth Green leaving early in production of season four. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". [13], Lindsey then initiated the next stage of his plan, making Spike corporeal again through a package sent to Spike at Wolfram & Hart. She is also a Grammy Award nominee. She's not a mean person, she's just a straight-out scientist. Cameras installed in Riley's room allow her to spy on Buffy and Riley while they have sex, and later to hear Buffy ask Riley about the 314 Project. Buffy reboot cast: Which Buffy the Vampire Slayer cast will return? Charisma Carpenter is a 50-year-old American actress who played the role of Cordelia Chase in Buffy The Vampire Slayer for the first three seasons, and the series is now on All4.The star is also . What did Maggie intend for Adam to do then? Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs tagged as #lindsay crouse with no restrictions, modern design and the best experience | Tumpik. . Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) They were thinking in terms of family,so Adam as "brother" probably seemed a better option. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. --from a usenet discussion. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. [sic]. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. [11] Nineteen days later, Lindsey makes a trip to the crater where Sunnydale once stood and digs Spike's amulet out of the Hellmouth. Various creatures captured by the Initiative were dissected to provide the parts for Adam. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. I just can't see Oz taking Tara's place. Prior to having his powers stripped from him by Angel's team, he displayed the following powers. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. Putting him in a crisis of conscience, Lindsay teamed up with Angel to save the children and allow him to leave Wolfram & Hart scot-free. Despite this, Angel finally defeated Lindsey and his comrades completed a ritual that dissolved the tattoos that protected Lindsey from the Senior Partners, and he was dragged away through a portal. > >> > I wonder. ", "North Shore Film Festival wraps up on May 8 and 9. When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Not according to Joss. Wow, I had no idea Walsh was originally intended to be the Big Bad. Upon discovering this, Lindsey sent several top private investigators to find out who the intruder was. I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. I was seven when they took the house, just came right in and took it.Lindsey McDonald, Born into a poor and dysfunctional family in the south-central United States, Lindsey worked hard to overcome his upbringing. Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: How many seasons of Buffy are there? Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. [citation needed] Her maternal grandparents were author and educator John Erskine and his wife Pauline Ives. Apr 21, 2022. The show then went into a bunch of filler/side stories involving Willow was well along the path to spell casting before she met Tara. -- Tim McDaniel is tm@jump.net; if that fail, tm@us.ibm.com is my work account. I have always imagined that Maggie treats people like grown-ups. The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. > In article , Tim McGaughy> wrote:>>in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at>>dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:>>> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what>>> they were made of.>>>>And why would he make his own bullets, then?>>>>> And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone Ranger complex.>>>>Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can>>only be killed by a silver bullet.> > That doesn't mean that the legends are true. I do wish I was a little more seasoned and mature at the time to realise how good it was. There were other indications that an> unknown force was at work in and around U.C. Fictional character from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, List of Buffyverse villains and supernatural beings, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maggie_Walsh&oldid=1138757945, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles using Infobox character with multiple unlabeled fields, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 12:27. But there's always the possibility that it just represents a "party line" and more truth is found elsewhere. She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> > their hats at the last minute. Lahr also writes that Mamet got his first screenwriting assignment through Crouse. He said that she was a scientist, and that she was going to be doing research and eventually, she might hatch an evil plot, but her front was being a psychology teacher. [2], The Senior Partners gave that Eurotrash vampire everything I've worked for. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. I think she/they (the initiative) wanted to create a "super-being" who could fight crime, kill demons etc, and then the scientists could continue to use the demon parts to create more "super-beings". Adam activates the chip Walsh had inserted into Riley's heart, making him biddable to Adam's command. DON'T MISSBuffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? She was striving so hard to understand what life was about. That she doesn't want to live in a world of babies. Touched by an Angel. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. > Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, Car@rcn.com wrote in article> <3D075A59@rcn.com> > > From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti> > Noxon:> > >. Clements.[14]. He also became the love interest of the titular character, Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar), and they were in a long term relationship. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. [6], When Darla was returned to life as a human, Lindsey became attached to her, struggling with CDs to play her music at his office and helping her mess with Angel's mind; he provided Darla with a fake identity and hired actor to play her husband to frame Angel for murdering him. Riley was different from Buffy's other love interests, is he was the only one who could offer her a slice of normality. [citationneeded], Lindsey and Eve contrive a situation where Spike saves Angel from a demonic parasite (placed on an unconscious Angel by Eve), which simultaneously disheartened Angel, galvanized Spike, and adds weight and veracity to the claims made by "Doyle"/Lindsey. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? > > > then we went, ehhh, forget it. Oh my god, how lame is that?-------------------------------------------------------------------------, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti, On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:16:49 -0400, Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\) <, I had thought there'd be more Walsh in S4Too bad, LC missed a real chance to. Angel tried to catch her out by attacking her, thus forcing her to defend herself beyond the abilities of an average person in front of a court hearing with Lindsey as her defendant. the exact opposite of this paragraph. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. It was an experiment that the Government wanted to test was possible or not, and they put Maggie in charge. One fan said: "I didnt like Riley Finn when he first became Buffy's boyfriend but by the time he left I was really sad. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. [17] She and Mamet divorced in 1990. As I rewatch S04 and marvel at the cheesy lameness of fax-enabled, floppy-disk-eating Adam, I wonder whether Adam was a Plan B Big Bad or the Big Bad we needed and were going to get all along. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Complete Series (1997-2003) was TV's most unlikely pop-culture phenomenon since The X-Files. [12] Deposited, incorporeal, in Wolfram & Hart and unable to leave the city limits, Spike gradually grows attached to L.A. and reconsiders his initial intention to seek out Buffy in Europe, deciding to allow Buffy to remember him as a self-sacrificing hero. Green supposedly wanted a better storyline to showcase his talents (hey, yeah, hey being pretty much interchangable with Tara's lines). )>> >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets> > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> were made of. Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can onlybe killed by a silver bullet. The. I like her caustic nature, because she's not a mean person. I couldn't let that slide.Lindsey McDonald, Two years later, Lindsey finally returned to Los Angeles, when he learned that Angel has taken over the Los Angeles division of Wolfram & Hart. After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> Usenet posting). Have your Hicks spayed or neutered. She's like a President. 2. Sarah Michelle Gellar. She really would like to fashion the world in her image. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. [11], Crouse appeared in Lee Blessing's Going to St. Ives with the Gloucester Stage Company during the summer of 2008[12] and provided the narration for Virginia Lee Burton: A Sense of Place, a documentary film about Virginia Lee Burton. I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. He would have been a mama's boy, an interestingfollow-up to Angel. She made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. Leaving Angel briefly to get his stake, Angel in that time recovered and turned the tables on Lindsey. Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. His character went on to feature in a comic book which focused on Riley and his new wife. Hmm interesting hope someone has info on this? Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. Time operated in a loop; each day, after waking up and sharing a normal day with his "family," he had his heart cut out by a The Wrath, a demon in the house's basement. Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? [15] Although the "mind numbing" visions that Lindsey reported were non-existent, the events described were real. "It's always hard to be directed by someone who's close to you," Crouse says. Yes, such specifics will certainly be written around the characters and their natures and would differ, but there's no real reason the broad flow of the story would have had to be different. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It wasn't a big deal to lose Lindsay Crouse a whole 9episodes earlier than planned. The thing is would people have cared that Buffy and Riley were being drivenapart? [2], Lindsey's driving force was his ambition, largely in part due to his childhood poverty. The. [1], Lindsey used his pass to get Angel past security so he could steal disks with information against his colleagues. I heard Seth wanted out because he was getting more demand for movie workcause of his Austin Powers role instead of his Buffy role. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. She is of Russian Jewish and Hungarian Jewish descent. Adam was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. It's nice, it's been fun that the people who have grown up with buffy have introduced it to their kids. That was what irked me at first about Tara. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. As opposed to just sort of misguided."[6]. "Quitting is not the same as giving up": Lindsay Crouse and Kirby Ferguson make the case for leaving a job, relationship or hobby. and our WB / Hulu. What was her plan? Their last collaboration was Mr. President in 1962. More info. Express. Adam is a complete monster with absolutely no human emotions -- it made him a very formidable foe! [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. I disagree. Buffy defeats the demons and appears on the monitors after Walsh has prematurely announced Buffy's death to Riley, who walks out. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditional> standards. After David Boreanaz left "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," he went on to star as the eponymous antihero of the spin-off show "Angel," according to Screen Rant. ", "For Mamet and Crouse, A Movie is a Family Affair. He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." But Crouse said this to Rafelson, who called Mamet; when the director asked why he should hire him for the screenplay, Mamet replied, "Because I'll give you a good screenplay or a sincere apology." "[3], Crouse gave some insight into her view on her character, "She's such an extremist. The set up for the final battle between Buffy and Adam occured in episode 14. This is something that has always been interesting to me everytime I watch season 4. While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. [1], He then aided in the resurrection of Angel's old lover, Darla by taking over chanting during the ritual to bring her back when the demon Vocah; who was originally performing the ritual; was distracted when Angel attacked him. As Crouse has said: "In our family, the work ethic was held up as some kind of byword At any hour, somebody's typewriter was going."[5]. "Carmikl" wrote in message. Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. When he tried to kill the aspiring actress Cordelia Chase, Angel attacked Russell at his manor to save her. Kills me! -- Jukka.@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela), The answer to all questions starting with those four words is "Yes.". "[18], Lindsey destroyed the Sahrvin Clan with Lorne's assistance as planned. After figuring out that his hand wasn't evil but rather suicidal, Lindsey pulled the plug on his friend and destroyed the facility, while saving those that could still be saved. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. Better safe than splattered. I loved Eliza Dushku, but she got a greatending on Angel so I don't mind her absence. She> said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> their hats at the last minute. An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. [13] In 2021, she appeared in a limited engagement of Mornings at Seven at Broadway's Theatre at St. That's because as with most female athletes, no matter how good she got, those things. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. That doesn't mean that the legends are true. [FAN DISCUSSION]Buffy: Why does Sarah Michelle Gellar not want to return for reboot? Meanwhile, he infiltrated Wolfram & Hart. You don't think she's just pining for the fjords? Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their cause, that he will be stripped of his position at Wolfram & Hart, leaving a power vacuum which Lindsey could fill, gaining a measure of revenge on Angel. That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. The demon however, worked against them by causing a distraction with Angel so Anne could show a tape, suspected to have incriminating evidence against them. Not much help sorry. Crouse was on her way to audition for Bob Rafelson's 1981 remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice, and jokingly Mamet told Crouse to tell Rafelson that "he was a fool if he didn't hire me to write the screenplay." His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> wrote:> >> Don Sample wrote in message>> news:<130620021341170604%dsa@synapse.net>>>> In article <1b3O8.7195$Ok1.4@news2.west.cox.net>, Daniel Silverman>>> wrote:>>> >>>> Oz is a werewolf>>>> From watching Wolf Lake, turning into a werewolf after being accelerates>>>> the>>>> healing process>>>> >>>> I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head or>>>> something>>>> >>>> Daniel Silverman>>> >>> Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing has>>> never been established. Harris wasn't playing for money, power or fame. Riley was also the only character to have been accepted as part of the group by Buffy's male friend, Xander Harris (Nicholas Brendon). "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. Fearing that the hand is evil, Lindsey went to Caritas and sang for the Host, revealing that he used to be a regular customer and musician at Caritas until he lost his hand. Lindsey displayed the new abilities he had learned on his journeys, enabling him to keep up with Angel in a physical confrontation. Though Angel saw Lindsey off, he managed to get one last crack at him by taping a sign reading "Cops Suck" on the back of his truck. While> Oz would have remained Willows love interest, I don't think we would> have seen Buffy crying in Oz's lap in "Dead Things" for instance. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well. They were only able to leave by the sacrifice of Gunn, who remained behind to take Lindsey's place. Anthony Stewart Head, who played Buffy's watcher Rupert Giles, was only represented by an oil painting. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. Especially since he's been in the show from almostthe start. It wasMaggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy infront of everyone at the Initiative. Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. I read something about this in the official Buffy Magazine years ago, don't remember what it said other than Maggie was going to play a much bigger part in Season 4 originally. Kinda makes sense that she died, "Well, she's {Buffy} got an appointment with someone {Walsh} who's actually. But it's easier to see how and why they might have madethat decision. Find where to watch Lindsay Crouse's latest movies and tv shows . Although it seemed that he and Angel had buried the hatchet, Lindsey was unable to cope with the fact that the Senior Partners gave Angel everything that Lindsey had worked so hard for. > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. *shudder*. ), -- Don Sample, dsa@synapse.netVisit the Buffy Body Count at http://www.synapse.net/~dsample/BBCQuando omni flunkus moritati. Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? Big Bang Theory plot hole: Who is Eliza Dushku? Crouse has appeared in featured and guest roles in a number of television series. [2], It was then that Lindsey decided to leave Wolfram & Hart permanently, despite the fact he was promoted. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >. Also, a rather different story since the focuswould have been on that personal aspect as well as thepolitical/military one. Unable to get within a good distance due to a cross Lindsey held, Angel threw a scythe at Lindsey, chopping off his right hand. I remember one early episode where Walsh was shown watching Buffy and Riley in bed together, and thought at the time that, if she were somehow sexually obsessed with Riley, she might have used Initiative resources, including other chipped demons and vampires, to take Buffy out of the picture, probably beginning when she sent Buffy out alone with the defective weapon against the demon. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Lindsey then discovered that Darla had slept with Angel. [14], Lindsey later sought out Spike under the assumed identity of a drifter named Doyle, closely paralleling the initial encounters between Angel and the real Doyle. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. I figured it was just her and her grad students, capturing vampires and locking them up in the basements of the university, performing experiments that they couldn't perform on humans.